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Is Investor/RT compatible with Windows Vista?
   

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Answer: Version 9.0 of Investor/RT is not Vista compatible, but can be run in Windows XP compatibility mode. Investor/RT 9.1 is Windows Vista compatible. Below, we first discuss how version 9.0 operates under Vista and then how 9.1 achieves Vista compatibility, and how to transition from 9.0 to
9.1 to begin running Investor/RT as a Windows Vista compliant application.

If you run Version 9.0 as Administrator, Investor/RT operates as it does under Windows XP. The Investor/RT database and other files within the install folder in Program Files are updated as the application runs. Running the software with administrative access is not recommended by Microsoft.
Users who run Investor/RT this way are greeted with warnings each time the software is launched and must click to "allow" the program to run in this fashion.

Version 9.0 can be run without administrative privileges if you setup the program properties to run in XP/SP2 compatibility mode. When run this way, Vista does not issue the warnings; Vista does not allow the program to update files inside the Program Files either; instead Vista makes hidden copies of the Investor/RT database files inside a "Virtual Store Program Files" folder in the user folder and updates all Investor/RT files there.
This Vista technique, called File Virtualization, enables Investor/RT to run without administrative access. The problem with this technique is that when you startup Investor/RT and run as administrator, the database in use is the database whose files are inside the real Program Files install folder. But if you startup without administrative access, Vista uses versions of those files stored elsewhere. The files will generally not be "in sync". This can be quite confusing needless to say. So with version 9.1 we have developed a way to allow Investor/RT to run with normal user access permissions where Investor/RT keeps the database and other files it uses in a user-specific folder.

Version 9.1 is Windows Vista compatible, subject to one minor limitation discussed below. Investor/RT can run as a normal Windows Vista application without administrative access. To accomplish this Investor/RT creates a folder named "IRT" within the "user folder" where the user has permission to read and write files. This "IRT" folder will appear along side "Documents"
and other familiar Windows Vista folders. The first time you run Investor/RT without XP/SP2 Compatibility mode enabled, Investor/RT will create the "IRT"
folder. It will create subfolders within "IRT" named admin, news, tickdata, and data_f. The empty data_f folder is where Investor/RT expects to find the Investor/RT database files. Investor/RT will then quit after instructing you to copy your data_f folder into the "IRT" folder. The data_f folder you will copy there is found inside the Investor/RT install folder (typically inside Program Files, see below for more details). After copying the data_f folder into the "IRT" folder, start up Investor/RT. The software will then use the "IRT" folder as its working folder and expect to find the database there.
Investor/RT does not require "Run As Administrator" any longer since it does not update files within Program Files. Instead, the Investor/RT database and all other files the software modifies reside inside the user folder where, by definition, the local user has read and write permission.

Windows Vista compatibility is available to Vista users whose user folder name (Vista user name) is 16 characters or less in length. This restriction is related to technical limitations on directory path length imposed by the database management system Investor/RT uses internally. Those with Vista user names that exceed this length can run Investor/RT in XP/SP2 compatibility mode.

Existing Investor/RT users may continue to run Investor/RT Version 9.1 in
XP/SP2 compatibility mode. If you elect to do this, unlike version 9.0, you must setup Investor/RT to Run as Administrator. Running the software in this fashion leads to Vista prompting messages "allowing" Investor/RT to start.

Existing Investor/RT users who wish to run Investor/RT as a Vista compliant application can make this transition quickly. Right-click on the Investor/RT executable and choose "Properties". Uncheck XP/SP2 compatibility and "Run as Administrator". Create the "IRT" folder yourself and put your data_f folder into the "IRT" folder. When you startup Investor/RT without XP/SP2 compatibility, the software will detect that the "IRT" folder and the database files are present; it will create the other subfolders as needed (admin, news, tickdata) and begin execution as Vista compatible.

Or, you can Start Investor/RT; it will setup the "IRT" folder, give you instructions, and quit. Move the data_f folder from the install folder into the "IRT" folder and startup again. If you have been running Investor/RT as administrator then the data_f you copy will be the one in the Investor/RT install directory in Program Files. If you have not been running version 9.0 as administrator, then you will find the data_f folder nested deeply inside a folder named "AppData" in your user folder. If you do not see AppData in your user folder, click on "Organize" and select "Folder & Search Options".
In the "View" tab, select the option "Show Hidden Files and Folders". You will then see the AppData folder; open it and follow the path .../AppData/Local/Virtual Store/Program File. Inside this virtual Program Files folder you will find a Investor/RT folder with the data_f folder inside. Copy this data_f into your user folder's "IRT" folder.

Investor/RT users installing for the first time on a machine (or for the first time for a user account on the Vista machine) will startup Investor/RT by default as a Vista compatible application. The software will create the "IRT" folder as described above, provide instructions for doing the copy and quit. This copy step is a one-time inconvenience; but we plan to explore ways to have this happen automatically in future versions of Investor/RT and/or Investor/RT installers.